CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 12 Rune Cults The Cults Q&A

Official Answers from Chaosium

This covers the second part of Chapter 12, pages 289-311:

For the Rune Cult Rules see the previous section: Rune Cults Q&A

Babeester Gor (page 289)

Full Cult write up in Earth Goddesses

Earth Goddess Q&A

Allied Spirits

In my game, a Babeestor Gor worshiping character is getting close to Rune Lord. I note that they can gain an allied spirit in an Axe, or an Earth Elemental. Since the cult can only summon Small Earth Elementals, are Rune Lords (called Axe Sisters in RQ3) also limited in their allied spirit to Small Earth Elementals? That seems a little weak. The character is SIZ 18, so no luck carrying her through the ground with a small Talosi.

Maybe an associated Ernalda priestess could summon a Large Talosi for the allied spirit to inhabit?

So, can she request a Large Talosi from the Ernalda priestess who has been sending her on missions? I tend to say yes.

Yes, in line with MGF, this is an excellent roleplaying opportunity. As most Babeester Gor temples and shrines are inside Ernalda temples, this would certainly challenge the adventurer’s Loyalty (Temple) or a Loyalty (Earth High priestess) passion.

so no luck carrying her through the ground with a small Talosi

Use the Drowning and Asphyxiation rules in RQG page 156 to cover this.

Axe Sisters

Rune Lords (called Axe Sisters in RQ3)

• Axe Sisters are initiates.
• Axe Maidens are Rune Lords.

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Chalana Arroy (page 290)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

Initiate

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Daka Fal (page 291)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

Shamans & Rune Priests

It’s not like in Waha Cult, where we can read:

Does it means that a Daka Fal follower can becomes Rune Priest following the standard rules with the requirement to be a shaman or that they are like Waha shamans, and replace rune priests?

They are both the same. Both get the benefits of being a shaman & Rune priest (if both requirements are met). They have different titles, Daka Fal has Shaman-Priests & Waha has Rune priests (who are also shaman). More info in the upcoming cults book.

Special Cult Spirit Magic

On p75 and p291, it says that Daka Fal grants Spirit Magic: All.

Does this mean that Daka Fal cultists can learn any Spirit Magic, including cult special spells such as Lantern, Parry, Rivereyes or Sleep?

No. Daka Fal cultists may not learn special cult spells such as Lantern, Parry, Rivereyes or Sleep. Daka Fal has no access to the divine part of a person’s soul that is sent to their specific afterlife. It is this part that has the cult rune and spirit magic spells. Likewise is not able to summon spirits from there or even determine what the secret spells might be (obviously they can see the effects of the casting). A shaman may venture deep into the spirit world and try to enter another god’s spirit demesne to try and obtain one of these spells, but that is an adventure in itself.

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Eiritha (page 291)

Full Cult write up in Earth Goddesses

Earth Goddess Q&A

Associated Cults (page 292)

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Engizi (page 292)

Initiate Membership

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Ernalda (page 292)

Full Cult write up in Earth Goddesses

Earth Goddess Q&A

Associated Cults (page 293)

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Humakt (page 296)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

Initiate Membership

Bladesharp 4

Does this mean a new Humakti adventurer has Bladesharp 4 plus the normal 5 spirit magic points, for a total of 9 points of spirit magic?

No, they need to use 4 of their 5 slots of Spirit Magic.

Note that free of cost doesn’t mean it’s in addition to the five points of starting spirit magic. It will take up four of the five points of starting spirit magic (as will fireblade). Note that in the Initiates of Humakt box in Lightbringers, page 109, it is listed as Bladesharp (var.) not Bladesharp 4.

Humakt’s Gifts (page 296)

D12	Gift	Required Geases
9	Bless specific weapon to do double damage (once armor is penetrated) against a given foe species.	2
10	Bless a specific weapon to do double damage (once armor is penetrated).	3
11	Bless a specific weapon to do double damage (once armor is penetrated) upon striking a specific hit location.	2

Are these weapons enchanted?

Do Humakti Gift weapons count as enchanted for the purposes of creatures only harmed by such weapons? (Ignoring any spells that may be cast)

Yes, assuming the criteria are met (type of creature, armor penetrated, specific hit location). 

10 Bless a specific weapon to do double damage…

Gift #10 says, “Bless a specific weapon to do double damage (once armor is penetrated).”

Does this include against weapons or shields? (and, is suppose I should add, against spirits when hitting their MPs?)

Yes. Note that this is a powerful gift and require three geases (one of only three). 

As usual GMs are welcome to interpret the rules as they wish in their own games.

Humakt ’s Geases (page 297)

Sword of Humakt (Rune Lord)

Shield as any other weapon attack

Would shield skill fulfill the requirement for Humakt’s “any other weapon attack”?

No, it is not one of Humakt’s cult’s skills. Your GM may of course overrule this as usual.

Note that Another melee weapon is just shorthand for another melee cult weapon. Few will train in out of cult weapons as it’s more costly and harder to find a trainer.

Daggers

Do daggers count as a sword for Sword skill?

They do not use sword skill, they use dagger skill.

Pole Swords & Sword Staffs

Do pole swords or sword staffs count as a sword for Sword skill?

Both are two handed spears.

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Issaries (page 298)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

Trader Prince (Rune Priest) Goldentongue Subcult (page 298)

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Odayla (page 300)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

Initiate Membership

Cult Skills

Melee weapons are not in the Cult Skills list. Should they be?

No, they are cultural.

Hunter occupation gives Animal Lore +30%, Scan +10%, Lore (local) +10%, Track +30%, Conceal +10%, Hide +10%, Listen +10%, Cultural Missile Weapon (pick type) +30%, Odayla gives: Track +15%, Peaceful Cut +20%, Sing +10%.

As always the rules are flexible and allow you to change any of this around. If your GM agrees, you could for example swap sing for melee weapon.

Bearwalker (Rune Lord )

A candidate must have a 90% weapon skill (and four other skills at 90%), however the list of other skills mentions “another melee weapon” – does this mean the first skill must be a melee weapon? or is the “another” an error?

The occupation for an Odayla initiate is likely to be a hunter, and their homeland availability is Grazelands, Old Tarsh, Prax, Sartar. Each one of those homelands lists cultural weapons (page 60), and all have at least two un-ranged cultural weapons. So a Bison Odayla hunter could have Dagger 90% & Broadsword 90% or a Grazelands Odayla hunter could have Broadsword 90% and Lance 90% and then three other skills.

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Orlanth (page 300)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

God-talkers

It states that the requirement for a God-talker of Orlanth is “as per Storm Voice”.

That in turn lists the requirement “must belong to the Thunderous subcult”.

Does this mean that there are no God-talkers in the Orlanth Adventurous and Vinga subcults? 

That is correct, only Orlanth Thunderous has God-talkers. There are no Orlanth Adventurous priests, only Rune Lords, so no God-talker path.

Wind Lord (Rune Lord ) Orlanth Adventurous Subcult

Daggers

Do daggers count as a sword for Sword skill or as another melee weapon?

They do not use sword skill, they use dagger skill.

Pole Swords & Sword Staffs

Do pole swords or sword staffs count as a sword for Sword skill?

Both are two handed spears.

Enchantments (page 302)

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Seven Mothers (page 302)

Holy Days

Rune magic (page 303)

Summon & Dismiss Darkness/Earth/Fire/Water Elemental (small only)

Seven Mothers initiates can Summon / Dismiss Elementals (max 1pt) using the Moon rune, but cannot Summon / Dismiss any form of Air Elemental. The source of these elementals are The Young Elementals, page 304.

Other Lunar Cults (page 304)

Casting Associated Cult Rune Magic

Hwarin Dalthippa provides Shield to Chief and High Priests of the cult. Since Shield must be cast using one of the runes of the providing cult, this leaves players with the problem of not knowing Hwarin Dalthippa’s runes.

Hwarin Dalthippa’s runes (Moon, Movement, Light) for Shield, The Moon rune is likely the most accessible.

Same with Hon-eel for Bless Maize, Yanafal Tarnils for Truesword, and Red Goddess for Chaos Gift.

These use the spell’s runes (See Casting Associated Cult Rune Magic, RQG page 283)

• Bless Maize
• Truesword
• Chaos Gift

Yanafal Tarnils

Can Yanafal Tarnils worshippers craft iron?

• Seven Mothers subcult – no crafting or enchanting.
• Full cult – yes – crafting and enchanting

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Waha the Butcher (page 306)

Full Cult write up in Lightbringers

Lightbringers Q&A

Rune Magic

Summon (Cult Spirit)

What cult spirit might a Waha Shaman summon?

Cult spirits

Waha is served by small Earth elementals, Spirits of Law, the spirits of the tribal Founders, and numerous heroic ancestors. Spirit of Retribution.

Here are the specific spells:

• Summon Earth Elemental (small)
• Summon Spirit of Law
• Summon Founder (legitimate khan only)
• numerous heroic ancestors (treat as summon ancestor & specific ancestor for 3pts)
• Spirit of Retribution is summoned by Summon Cult Spirit

Waha shaman will also have access to Summon and Control (entity), and would certainly be able to summon and control Small Earth elementals. Spirits of Law could be found at the Law vortex at Ex, likewise Man spirits would be ancestors in the Great Herd, and Death spirits at vortices known to the shaman. 

Parenthetical spells usually are for one species of entity. Is this true here. Choice to be made at initiation or…
Does Waha have special entities like CA or Engizi?

See above.

Shaman Membership (page 306)

Shaman-Priests

“The Waha cult has shamans instead of Rune Priests. Any Waha initiate who becomes a shaman qualifies for this status.”

I am not 100% sure what I am reading here, it sounds a bit like it is saying “if you become a shaman, you’re a shaman”. I assume the distinction is that if you are an initiate of Waha and become a shaman (the same way you would become a shaman in other cults), you immediately qualify to be a Waha-shaman which is equivalent to Rune Priest level in other cults and comes with all the responsibilities below? And does that mean you could be a Waha initiate and shaman and chose NOT to take on this extra layer of responsibility or does it happen automatically?

It means that for Waha, being a shaman is the same as being a priest. They’re the same thing. You can’t pick to be one and not the other.

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Yelm (page 306)

The introduction lists, in order, five subcults of Yelm: Youth, Archer, Warrior, Teacher, Elder. The following sections then detail Youth and Archer (Initiate), but the Warrior subcult (I assume that Warrior is the cult for Sun Lords, but it doesn’t say) and Teacher subcult (is that the cult for the Golden Bow shamans?) are not explicitly mentioned at all, before it returns to Elder (Rune Priest). You expect all the subcults listed by name and order as they are mentioned, in the introduction, but that doesn’t happen.

Here are the cult ranks and their corresponding subcults:

• Lay Member = Youth 
• Initiate = Archer 
• Rune Lord = Sun Lord / Warrior 
• Shaman = Golden Bow / Teacher 
• Rune Priest = Elder

Golden Bow (Shaman) (page 308)

Shamanic Abilities Clarification (page 308)

Note: At Stage Four—The Ordeal (page 355), they may select from the following taboos. At Stage Five—The Reward, in place of one, they receive four shamanic abilities, and must take four of the following taboos (player choice):

(list)

It is possible that a Golden Bow shaman could loose four times to Bad Man and choose four taboos from the list page 308, then at Stage Five—The Reward, gain the usual single shamanic ability, then take four more and take the remaining four taboos from the list.

Elder (Rune Priest) (page 308)

The requirements seem a bit confused. It doesn’t seem to be just the specific skills listed here, since it includes some of the basics like there being a vacancy, and there’s a non-standard test roll. But some other basics like 5 Rune Points and POW 18 aren’t listed.

This sort of thing means a reader has to try and figure out what the total requirements are – do they need to merge this list with the standard Rune Priest requirements and work out what replaces what? Or is this intended to be an absolute list (surely not?), which could be implied through the repeating of standard items such as a vacancy?

It’s totally non-standard. The key here is that you need to be a Rune Lord first to become a Rune Priest, then there needs to be a vacancy, and you need Worship Yelm 90%+, Firespeech 50%+ and pass the test of holiness POWx3. Given the former, the latter is still tough.

There are two other methods to become a Rune Priest in CoG, but they are even harder.

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Yelmalio (page 308)

Holy Days

Initiate Membership

Spirit Magic – Ignite

Ignite is not listed in the list of Forbidden Spells, is this a typo or a purposeful loophole?

The prohibited list is from Geases laid down in the Gods War, Heat & Darkness related, Ignite is not one of them. It’s not however a cult spell, so they’d have to learn it elsewhere. They could learn it from an Ernalda priestess (associate cult).

Wulf Rune Lord of Yelmalio in Runemasters has it.

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Rune Magic – Shield

Yelmalio’s Gifts

Characteristic Gifts

Does this mean that you get 2 INT or SIZ points per 2 geases or 1 per 2?

For a 1 point increase to INT or SIZ you get 2 geases.

And what does the “no limits” mean?

It means there is no limit to the value of characteristic you apply the Gift to. 

Can you raise the characteristics over the racial maximum?

Yes.

Farsee

How many points of Farsee do you get from the Yelmalio gift?

Farsee 1. Your GM may allow you to take the gift again for the same number of geas, adding a level.

Light Son (Rune Lord )

Enchantments (page 309)

Update from Gods of Fire and Sky

Enchantments: Ban, Binding Enchantment, Enchant Gold, Enchant Iron, Magic Point Enchantment, Matrix Creation, Spirit Armor Enchantment.

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For the Rune Cult Rules see : Rune Cults Q&A

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Related Pages

• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 01 Introduction Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 02 Glorantha Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 03 Adventurers Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 03 Pregenerated Adventurers Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 04 Homelands Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 05 Game System Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 06 Skills Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 07 Combat Q&A pages 191-206
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 07 Combat Q&A pages 206-225
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 08 Runes Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 09 Passions & Reputation Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 10 Magic Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 11 Spirit Magic Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 11 Spirit Magic Spells Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 12 Rune Cults Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 13 Rune Magic Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 13 Rune Magic Spells Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 14 Shamans Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 15 Spirits & the Spirit World Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 16 Sample Sorcery Spells Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 16 Sorcery Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 17 Equipment & Wealth Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 18 Between Adventures Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 19 Adventurer Sheets Q&A
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Chapter 20 Conversion Guide
• CHA4028 RuneQuest: Roleplaying in Glorantha – Index Q&A

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