For those who might be interested, here’s some comparative numbers on the Lesser Tribes of Prax that won’t be appearing in the Guide to Glorantha. All numbers are of course approximate but give a good feel for the comparative sizes of the Lesser Tribes.
- Basmoli – 2500
- Bolo Lizard Folk -2100
- Cannibal Cult – 1000
- Men-and-a-Half – 3000
- Newtlings – 3000
- Ostrich Clan – 1200
- Pavis Survivors – 1200
- Rhinocerous Riders – 18000
- Unicorn Women – 1000
Comments
Joerg Baumgartner says:
I’m rather wondering about the low number of Pol Joni, given the plethora of Barbarian Horde counters in the Dragon Pass board game.
David Scott says: October 1, 2013
The Barbarian Horde is not made up of completely of Pol-Joni, there are only 3 Pol-Joni counters and 4 Nomad clans.
10000 Pol-Joni – a quarter are men (I will ignore Orlanthi fighting women here just to make the maths easier) = 2500, a rough ballpark is that mounted units are roughly 500 riders. 2500/500 = 5 counters if they all went to war. 3 counters going seems like a good if high number. 60% going to war in my opinion is high, but not unreasonable.
- For reference
- 3 Pol-Joni Tribe 5-4-5
- 2 Amber Clans 4-3-5 (nomads)
- 1 Potor Clan 4-3-5 (nomads)
- 1 Ansil Clan 4-3-5 (nomads)Jaldon Toothmaker (4)-10-6
- Flash Jak 5-3-5-4 (magical unit)
- Krise 5-3-5-4 (magical unit)
- And-Jay 5-3-5-4 (magical unit)
- 3 Tribal Magicians Spirits X-3-X-4 (magical unit)
Jeff Richard says:
Only three of the counters from the Barbarian Horde are Pol-joni. The rest are various spirit societies and warbands from the other tribes.
Joerg Baumgartner says:
Do we get any identification of the four clans (e.g. which beasts they ride)?I used to work on the assumption that these were other Cattle Bastard groups e.g. taken from the dissident Grazers that joined the Pol Joni migration into Prax but did not accept Derik’s leadership beyond that of a warleader against Jaldon’s allies. The population numbers don’t support this approach, though.
David Scott says:
Greg’s notes tell us they are all High Llamas in 1625, however later it becomes more mixed.
David Scott says:
Here’s the complete list in descending size order:
Major
- Impala 120,000
- Bison 80,000
- Morocanth 80,000
- Sable 75,000
- High Llama 65,000
Minor
- Rhinoceros Riders 18000
- Baboons 10000
- Pol-Joni 10000
- Men-and-a-Half 3000
- Newtlings 3000
- Basmoli 2500
- Bolo Lizard Folk 2100
- Ostrich Clan 1200
- Pavis Survivors 1200
- Cannibal Cult 1000
- Unicorn Women 1000
David Scott says:
Yes, have a look at Jeff’s reply to a similar question in the forum:
https://wellofdaliath.chaosium.com/forums/glorantha-group1/glorantha-discussions-forum1/lesser-tribes-of-prax-thread83/
Nils Weinander says:
Is 18000 Rhino Riders correct or is it a typo for 1800?
The Barbarian Horde is not made up of completely of Pol-Joni, there are only 3 Pol-Joni counters and 4 Nomad clans.
10000 Pol-Joni – a quarter are men (I will ignore Orlanthi fighting women here just to make the maths easier) = 2500, a rough ballpark is that mounted units are roughly 500 riders. 2500/500 = 5 counters if they all went to war. 3 counters going seems like a good if high number. 60% going to war in my opinion is high, but not unreasonable.
Only three of the counters from the Barbarian Horde are Pol-joni. The rest are various spirit societies and warbands from the other tribes.
Do we get any identification of the four clans (e.g. which beasts they ride)?
I used to work on the assumption that these were other Cattle Bastard groups e.g. taken from the dissident Grazers that joined the Pol Joni migration into Prax but did not accept Derik’s leadership beyond that of a warleader against Jaldon’s allies. The population numbers don’t support this approach, though.
Greg’s notes tell us they are all High Llamas in 1625, however later it becomes more mixed.