2019-11 Jeff on Facebook

Jeff Richard is one of the regular posters in the RuneQuest Facebook Group. here’s some of his recent RuneQuest posts, only Jeff’s replies are included where relevant. Facebook membership is required to access the originals.

As an aside, I often post notes or things that I am working on that I think people will find interesting or useful. But I am posting this material without edits or revisions – they are all notes or works in progress. If people really expect me to edit or revise such ephemera before I post it, I am probably not going to post such things.

Jeff Richard, 2021

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    The Victorious Marble Phalanx

    Soldiers of the Marble Phalanx celebrating their victorious (ie. successful) retreat to Alda-Chur after the disastrous near-victory at the Battle of the Queens.

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    It was a remarkable victory. After the disastrous near-victory at the Battle of the Queens, the Marble Phalanx defended the Lunar retreat through 60 km of barbarian and monster-infested wilderness. It was the Stonewall that enabled the Provincial Army to not only survive but to regroup at Alda-Chur. Set up that celebratory stele and trophy!

    South Wilds map sketch

    Here’s my sketch for the map of the South Wilds that will soon be appearing in full glorious color in The Smoking Ruins.

    Map of Tarsh

    Apropos the discussion of Tarsh, here is the labeled map of Tarsh.

    Second Age Middle Sea Empire

    A few notes on the Middle Sea Empire of the Second Age. It was largely a naval power (with its main land power being Seshnela), and it could throw massive resources at problems. Teams of sorcerers enslaving elementals and other spirits to *force* things their way, rather than working in accordance with the gods (like using sails instead of elementals to power your ships). They were humanistic rather than monotheistic – the world exists to be understood and exploited by humankind. The gods were studied, even used – but they were tools to power, rather than ends in and of themselves. Think of them as scientists in the science fiction novels of the 1960s and early 70s.

    Unlike the Rokari or New Hrestoli, the Jrusteli were perfectly willing to support and participate in cults and learn their mysteries. Issaries and Lhankor Mhy were both spread throughout the world by the Middle Sea Empire, and probably Chalana Arroy as well. Aurelian was used to tame Caladraland, and Wachaza was the backbone of their naval power. The Grain Goddesses were used for better harvests, without the political dangers of Ernalda (and her husbands that were allies of the EWF).Did I mention that in the height of the Second Age, the Jrusteli had something like Melnibonean battle barges? Sorcerers enslaved water elementals to move them, and the barges were loaded up with Wachaza worshiping cultists. These ships required huge resources but would have been absolutely terrifying. Catapults and ballista on the ships, these things would be totally impractical without the magical resources of the Middle Sea Empire. But with their sorcerers and Wachasta cultists, they were mobile floating temples of Death and War.


    The thing about the God Learners is they tended to do things with pure magical brute force. They didn’t develop more sophisticated craft techniques, better agricultural practices, smarter tactics and combined arms – because they didn’t need to. Need a navy? Let’s build huge armoured barges and have water elementals move it around. Need better barley harvest? Let’s move the Grain Goddess from another region and put her here. Need to deal with many different cultures? Let’s put Issaries here and have his markets be neutral grounds. In short, they thought like power-gaming RPG players.

    Don’t think about the God Learners as being “wrong” – they clearly understood how the magical rules of Glorantha worked well enough to exploit them in extravagant ways. But like a gamemaster dealing with players who abuse rules loopholes one too many times, the cosmos struck back with a Rules Fix.

    Their audacity and recklessness is what enabled their success – look at Tanian’s Victory for a good example.

    I think the cosmos had to react against the God Learners’ continued abuse and exploitation. It stretched and stretched until it snapped back into place. The Closing, the Purple Fleet, the fall of the Clanking City – all contributed to that.Similarly, where the EWF abandoned the Grand Ritual for material concerns, the magic they had gathered struck back against them. The dragonewts abandoned them, the trolls betrayed them.

    Battle barges that go on the land as well? I wouldn’t be surprised if some God Learner tried to work out how that would be done. But that project got put on the back burner after the Make the Seas Burn project and the Switch Grain Goddess with One that Grows the Grain We Like. Sure your “Ship that Sails on Land and Sea” proposal is interesting, but the return on the investment is nothing like the God in the Machine project or the Use the Sea Gods against the Seas project. “damn we really hate Spelt. Can’t we move the Spelt goddess to central Ralios and move that nice Wheat goddess to Slontos?”.

    I now totally want to do a freeform or boardgames where you all play God Learners trying to get magical resources and bureaucratic approval for your magical projects. “Maybe the  proposal for a Flying Lead Platform that uses enslaved Air Elementals is less exciting than the Ship that Sails on Land and Sea, but he used Form 21-B for his application, while the other tried an interdepartmental memo!”

    The God Learners were shocked and surprised when their expansion into southern Genertela was halted and even reversed by armies of dragonewts, dark trolls, and elves, led by Lightbringers riding atop wyrms and dragons. Fire-breathing dragons burned battle barges, and waves of dragonewts who fought without any care for their lives terrified the well-armed soldiers who fought for the Emperor. Even worse were the troll ambushes at night.

    That’s an important trick to understanding the success of the EWF. By speaking with dragons, they gained the service of the dragonewts, wyrms, dream dragons, and countless other draconic entities. And that magic did not fit well within the paradigm of the God Learners monomyth. The techniques that allowed the Jrusteli to conquer Slontos, Kralorela, Fonrit, and more, grounded to a halt in Dragon Pass.

    Greg and I hated the treatment of the God Learners and the EWF by MRQ2. Hated it passionately.

    I could imagine the wreck of a great Jrusteli battle barge off the shores of the Machine Ruins might make a fun scenario.

    There’s also a tremendous element of the Middle Sea Empire and the God Learners being rules-manipulating players of RPGs and war games. Players who foolishly try to exploit the Extension spell or Axe Trance end up sinking their lands beneath tidal waves or having shiploads of purple Luathelans shatter the earth with a golden spike. Cosmic justice.

    NW Prax map

    Today’s map builds on yesterday’s and might seem a bit more familiar – this is NW Prax (plus parts of NE Sartar). Some of this appeared in the Trollpack map, but this is much more detailed.

    SW Prax

    Here’s one more map. This is SW Prax complete with labels.


    One of the things I really like about this is it gives a great impression how close the Block is to SE Sartar, and frankly how integrated SE Sartar is with Prax. And how screwed up the terrain is.

    I am pretty sure you can see the Block from the Balcony in Boldhome’s High Pocket and maybe even from the Storm Bull temple and the Royal Palace.

    Is that a cursus ? More like a canyon dug by the Block. It is 45 km long, probably a km wide and nearly a km deep.

    I do love Stormwalk Mountain. A nice big 3000+ meter corkscrew mountain, covered in snow and ice coming over Prax and Heortland.

    These are each A2s. Together Prax is an A1 and Prax+DragonPass/Kethaela is an A0.

    North Esrolia and the Shadow Plateau.


    You can only imagine how awesome this area must have been when the Only Old One ruled from his palace.

    A truly golden age for the Holy Country before the Pharaoh swam ashore and ruined everything. (Was it the Holy Country before Belintar?) Well not quite. The Only Old One was never really what he used to be by the Second Age, and by the early Third Age, he was clearly failing and had lost the mandate of Hell.

    Also what really comes out is how densely settled Esrolia is. A settlement every 4 or 5 km.

    Dragon Pass Maps

    You can even see Lake Ivaress and Filichet in the upper left hand corner here.


    What I love about these is I can get a much better feel for the vegetation and the amount of settlement. Dark green is forest (mainly pine), light green is mixed oak, pine, and grassland, yellow is either rich grassland or SPECIAL (in the case of the Print). White is grassland or cultivated lands.

    If you look carefully, the scale is in the lower right corner of the Sartar map. Of course on my originals, these are all 1 cm=4 km.

    Making these huge detailed maps really has helped me visualise Glorantha far better. Here’s a nice view of Ezzjuzz mountain not far from the Wasp Nest:

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    So here is the dark green:

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    The background hills are light green on the map:

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    I have tribal overlays for Sartar and Heortland on this as well. And am really tempted to do a Cults Overlay if I can figure out how I want to display that.

    I have done the same with Prax, but there is little sense for tribal overlays as the Praxian tribes are nomadic.

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